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APPENDIX - P

 

TENDERS ATTACHED TO CLASS A4 PACIFICS

 

In "Locomotives of the L.N.E.R.", Part 2A (RCTS, 1973), the Summary of Gresley Class A4 gives types of their tenders and dates attached, under broad categories C (Corridor) and S (Streamlined Non-Corridor).  These categories were sufficient for the needs of the Operating Department at the time, but ignore the present-day needs of model makers who would like to know more about the type of Corridor tender attached at a specific date.  It is therefore appropriate to reset this Table, adjusting the codes, and splitting C into C and SC.  The position after July 1938, when the last Gresley Pacific appeared, was as follows:

GN. GN type tenders: T.5211/2, 5223-32, 5253-92 with Classes A1 (A10), A3.

NT. New Type Non-Corridor tenders: T.5476-83, 5566-74, 5580-4 with Classes A1 (A10), A3, and T.5565/75 with Class P2.

C. New Type Corridor tenders: T.5323-32 with Class A4, and T.5484 with Class W1.

SC. Streamlined Corridor tenders: T.5646-52 with Class A4.

S. Streamlined-Non-Corridor tenders: T.5576-9 with Class P2, T.5589-92, 5636/8/9/41/2, 5667-75 with Class A4, and T.5637/40/3/4/5 with Classes A1 (A10), A3.

 

Many allocation changes were minor in nature, especially exchanges at King's Cross shed, some of short duration, some changes perhaps never appertained in traffic.

 

The revised Summary for Class A4 is as follows

 

Engine
No.
Orig.
Tender

Tender Type Changes
2509 (60014) SC S(4/39), SC(5/39), C(5/55), SC(7/55)
2510 (60015) SC  
2511 (60016) SC S(6/48)
2512 (60017) SC S(5/39), SC(6/39)
4482 (60023) C S(7/41)
4483 (60024) C S(8/66)
4484 (60025) C S(5/55), C(7/55), SC(9/58)
4485 (60026) C S(10/52), C(6/53), S(1/54)
4486 (60027) C S(3/48), SC(7/48)
4487 (60028) C S(6/51), SC(6/52)
4488 (60009) C S(5/48), C(11/63)
4489 (60010) C SC(6/53), S(7/53)(j), C(8/53)(a)
4490 (60011) C  
4491 (60012) SC  
4492 (60013) SC S(7/50)(b), SC(4/55)
4493 (60029) SC C(3/53)
4494 (60003) SC NT(10/45)(c), SC(11/45), S(6/52), C(1/54), S(9/55)
4495 (60030) SC S(7/48), C(6/51)
4496 (60008) SC S(4/57)
4497 (60031) SC  
4498 (60007) C  
4462 (60004) S C(7/41), S(2/48)(f), C(5/48)(g)(h)
4463 (60018) S  
4464 (60019) S  
4465 (60020) S  
4466 (60006) S SC(7/50)(b), C(6/53)(j), SC(7/53)(j), S(6/54)
4467 (60001) S SC(4/57), C(5/62)
4468 (60022) S C(3/48), SC(3/53), C(8/58), SC(5/62)
4469 (-) S (e)
4499 (60002) S  
4500 (60001) S  
4900 (60032) S C(10/52), S(6/53), SC(6/54) S(4/55), C(9/55)
4901 (60005) S  
4902 (60033) S C(4/48)
4903 (60034) S C(2/48), S(1/63)(d)

 

Notes:

(a) No. 60010 acquired C tender (T.5328) 27/8/1953.  The date of 7/53 given in the Summary Table of Part 2A is incorrect, but as the engine was still in works at the end of July 1953, the error is not significant.

(b) No. 60013 exchanged tenders with No. 60006 at King's Cross shed in July 1950, to provide the latter with a serviceable tender.  The exchange went unreported, and their record cards show 1/1951 as the exchange dates, when the engines were both in Works.

(c) No. 4494 acquired NT tender from Class A3 No. 2563 (T.5584) 29/10/1945, ex-works 3/11/1945.  Its displaced SC tender (T.5649) had meanwhile left works with No. 2509 20/10/1945.  The error was soon corrected.  No. 2509 received back its SC tender (T.5590) 6/11/1945 allowing No. 4494 to get back its original tender (T.5649) 7/11/1945.  Finally T.5584 was restored to No. 2563, ex-works 17/11/1945.  The footnote to the Summary Table in Part 2A erroneously stated that the tender with No. 4494 from 29/10/45 to 5/11/1945 was a Streamlined Non-Corridor, whereas it was a New Type Non-Corridor.

(d) No. 60034 acquired the Streamlined tender (T.5640) 28/1/1963, previously attached to No. 4472 Flying Scotsman (103, 60103) from 2/7/1938-to withdrawal 15/1/1963.  Ignoring the previously mentioned fiasco with T.5584, this was the only example of an A4 acquiring a tender from an A3 after 1938.

(e) The damaged tender (T.5672) from No. 4469 (withdrawn 6/6/1942) was afterwards reconditioned (becoming T.703), and attached to Class A2/1 No. 3696 (12/1945).

(f) T.5639 attached during Casual visit to Doncaster Works (3-4/2/1948), to provide a corridor tender (T.5323) for No. 22E Mallard.

(g) T.5484 (ex Class W1 No. 10000) was attached during a Casual visit to Doncaster Works (24-25/5/1948), and T.5639 was then reattached to lass W1 No 60700 (ex-works 24/6/1948).

 

For completeness, the Summary Table of Tender Changes for Class W1 No. 10000 (60700) is as follows:

Engine
No.
Orig.
Tender

Tender Type Changes
10000 (60700) C S(6/48)(h), SC(7/53)(j), S(8/53)

 

Notes;

(h) Corridor tender T.5484 had been exchanged for Streamlined Non-Corridor tender T.5639 which had been with Class A4 No. 60004 (since 4/2/1948).

(j) Streamlined Corridor tender T.5647 had been transferred from Class A4 No. 60010 to hasten its arrival at Doncaster Works for repair (but prior to 29/6/1953 this tender had been with No. 60006).  No. 60010 followed No. 60700 to Doncaster Works, with T.5639 to be reunited with No. 60700 (18/6/1953).  No. 60006 visited Doncaster Works, with T.5328 to be reunited with No. 60010 (27/8/1953).  No. 60006 was reunited with T.5647 (28/7/1953).  All three engines were then back with the same tenders to which they had been attached two months before.

 

 

CLASS A4 TENDER EXCHANGES

There were no spare tenders for the Gresley Pacifics, so changes could only be made by straight exchange with another Pacific (or Class W1 No. 10000).  Exchanges involving Class A3 were rare, the only examples being a New Type tender from Class A3 No. 2563 Tagalie (10/1945, see note (c) above), and the Streamlined Non-Corridor tender from Flying Scotsman (1/1963) after its withdrawal from service.  King's Cross shed occasionally exchanged tenders between its own Pacifics, especially during the 1950s.  The usual reasons were to ensure the A4s on the top-link working had good corridor tenders, or to pair up defective tenders with high-mileage engines so they could be shopped as soon as possible.  Reasons for exchanges in Works are difficult to work out.  Perhaps the engine's own tender took longer to repair than expected, and it was more important to return an engine to traffic promptly.  The reasons were not recorded on the engine or tender record cards.

Shed codes used below: ABD Aberdeen (Ferryhill), GHD Gateshead, HTN Heaton, KX King’s Cross.  All references to Works mean Doncaster Works.

1/36. KX Nos. 2509/10 exchanged their original tenders (T.5589/90) in Works.

12/37. KX Nos. 4489/90 exchanged their original tenders (T.5326/8) in Works.

4/39. No. 2509 visited Works (19/4/39) to leave behind T.5590 (in need of repair), and in exchange borrowed T.5642 from 4468 (which was under repair 14/3/1939 - 5/5/1939).  No. 2509 then exchanged T.5642 at King’s Cross shed (25/5/39) for T.5592 from No. 2512.   Around 7/6/39 it is likely that Nos. 2509 and 2512 switched tenders again, but this is unrecorded, leaving No. 2512 with its original tender (T.5592) and No. 2509 with the borrowed T.5642.  No. 2509 returned to Works (9/6/39) to exchange T.5642 for T.5590 (which had been under repair since 19/4/39 – 9/6/39).  Tender T.5642 was passed on to No. 4903, which had been in Works for repair (21/4/39 - 9/6/39), its own tender T.5642 having been taken for No. 4468.  The nett result was no change for Nos. 2509/10, and Nos. 4468 and 4903 had changed tenders. The tender record card for T.5590 shows it attached continuously from 1/36 to 8/45.  The process of finding a tender for No. 2509 in April 1939 was complicated, and has been difficult to sort out at a later date, when short visits to exchange tenders were not necessarily recorded on the record cards, and exchanges at sheds were not necessarily reported to Doncaster.

6/41. HTN No. 4462 (T.5667) and HAY No. 4482 (T.5323) entered Works for General repair on the same day (5/6/1941), and their tenders were exchanged, perhaps in error.  After leaving Works, No. 4462 was transferred to HAY, and No. 4482 to HTN, so perhaps the tender exchange (which included a corridor and non-corridor) was intentional after all. Or perhaps the Shed change was brought about because of the inadvertent tender change.

8/8/43. KX Nos. 4485 (T.5324) and 4498 (T.5329) exchanged tenders at King’s Cross shed.  The next day No. 4485 entered Works for General repair, suggesting the tender exchange was to do with the mechanical condition of T.5329.

3/45. GRA No. 4495 (T.5650) and HAY 4497 (T.5652) exchanged their tenders whilst in Works.

8/45. KX Nos. 4484 (T.5327) and 4487 (T.5330) exchanged their tenders whilst in Works.

29/10/45. KX No. 4494 temporarily acquired T.5584 whilst in Works.  This has been mentioned earlier. See Note (c) below the above Table.

3/2/48. HAY No. 4E (T.5323) visited Works to exchange its tender with 22E (T.5639), to provide Mallard with a corridor tender for the Interchange Trials.

2/48. HAY No. 27 (T.5332) and KX No. 34 (T.5642) exchanged their tenders whilst in Works.

3/48. HAY No. 9 (T.5325) and GRA No. 33 (T.5636) exchanged their tenders whilst in Works.

5/48. HAY No. 60009 (T.5636) and GHD No. 60016 (T.5591) exchanged their tenders in Works.

24/5/48. HAY No. 4E (T.5639) visited Works again, to exchange tenders with KX Class W1 No. 10000 (T.5484).

7/48. HAY No. 60027 (T.5642) and GRA No. 60030 (T.5652) exchanged their tenders whilst in Works.

7/50 Nos. 60006 (T.5670) and 60013 (T.5647) exchanged their tenders at King's Cross shed, though their record cards note the dates as 5/1/1951 and 8/1/1951 respectively whilst in Works.  From hereon, tender exchanges at King's Cross shed were usually reported promptly to Doncaster (C.M. & E.E. Mechanical Records office).

30/6/51. Nos. 60028 (T.5327) and 60030 (T.5642) exchanged their tenders at King’s Cross shed, shortly before No. 60030 went to Works.

24/6/52. Nos. 60028 (T.5642) and 60003 (T.5649) exchanged their tenders at King’s Cross shed.

10/52. KX Nos. 60026 (T.5329) and 60032 (T.5675) presumably exchanged their tenders whilst in Works. No. 60032 was in Works (16/9/52 – 24/10/52), and No. 60026 appears to have been in Works (29/9/52 – 1/10/52) to facilitate the change.  The latter’s visit to Works is not recorded. though as it was in for repair this is not surprising. (The dates are taken form the tender record cards.)  I have a note that I had tried to check this out at Doncaster around 1965, but found no evidence.  If the records are correct, this means a defect had been found on T.5329 that could not wait, as otherwise the tenders would have been exchanged at King’s Cross shed before No. 60032 left for Works.

12/3/53. Nos. 60029 (T.5648) and 60022 (T.5323) exchanged their tenders at King’s Cross shed, shortly before No. 60022 went to Works.

1/6/53. Nos. 60026 (T.5675) and 60032 (T.5329) exchanged their tenders at King’s Cross shed.

29/6/53. Nos. 60010 (T.5328) and 60006 (T.5647) exchanged their tenders at King’s Cross shed; then:.
9/7/53. Class A4 No. 60010 (T.5647) and Class W1 No. 60700 (T.5639) exchanged their tenders at King’s Cross shed.
All three engines, Nos.60006/10, 60700 then went to Works.

7/53. Three KX engines, Nos. 60006 (T.5328), 60010 (T.5639) and Class W1 No. 60700 (T.5647) were shopped, and returned as Nos. 60006 (T.5647), 60010 (T.5328) and 60700 (T.5639).

20/1/54. Nos. 60026 (T.5329) and 60003 (T.5642) exchanged their tenders at King’s Cross shed.

28/5/54. Nos. 60033 (T.5325) and 60034 (T.5332) exchanged their tenders at King’s Cross shed.

17/6/54. Nos. 60006 (T.5647) and 60032 (T.5675) exchanged their tenders at King’s Cross shed.

12/4/55. Nos. 60013 (T.5670) and 60032 (T.5647) exchanged their tenders at King’s Cross shed, shortly before No. 60013 went to Works.

24/5/55. Nos. 60014 (T.5590) and 60025 (T.5330) exchanged their tenders at King’s Cross shed.
26/7/55. Nos. 60014 (T.5330) and 60025 (T.5590) exchanged back their tenders at King’s Cross shed, shortly before No. 60025 went to Works.

7/9/55. Nos. 60003 (T.5329) and 60032 (T.5670) exchanged their tenders at King’s Cross shed, shortly before No. 60003 went to Works.

3/57. HAY No. 60024 (T.5331) and KX No. 60032 (T.5329) exchanged their tenders whilst in Works.

1/4/57. Nos. 60008 (T.5651) and 60021 (T.5671) exchanged their tenders at King’s Cross shed.

8/58. KX Nos. 60022 (T.5648) and 60025 (T.5330) exchanged their tenders whilst in Works.

10/60. KX No. 60010 (T.5328) and HAY No. 60011 (T.5326) exchanged their tenders whilst in Works.

30/5/62. Nos. 60021 (T.5651) and 60022 (T.5330) exchanged their tenders at King’s Cross shed.

1/63. Class A4 No. 60034 (T.5325) and withdrawn Class A3 No. 4472 (T.5640) exchanged their tenders whilst in Works.  T.5325 is still associated with Flying Scotsman.

25/4/63. Withdrawn No. 60022 acquired T.5670 for preservation purposes.  This tender was renumbered T.5642 (9/5/63).

11/63. ABD No. 60009 (T.5591) acquired T.5332 from withdrawn No. 60034 in Works.  T.5591 was scrapped.

1/7/66. Withdrawn ABD Nos. 60009 (T.5332) was given T.5484 from withdrawn No. 60004.  T.5332 became a water-carrier for No. 4472.

24/8/66. ABD engines Nos. 60024 (T.5329) and withdrawn 60034 (T.5640) exchanged their tenders.  T.5329 was finally condemned 3/12/66.

 

Revised 16 June 2012

Revised 13 June 2012

Revised 12 June 2012

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